BSP6300 Build?

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JoeDirt
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BSP6300 Build?

Post by JoeDirt » 27 May 2018, 05:24

New guy here, I will take my flogging now!

Anyways I want to start my "scope less build" thread to no tie up the main DIY forum section with noob type activitys. Dont
worry im reading all the pinned posts :geek:

I have yet to see any mention of this camera. Specs seem good, already has the C/CS lens mount, option for auto aperture and
1/4-20 holes for easy mounting. ".0001 lux - 500X better native light sensitivity without DSS low light boost" Do any of you gurus think this may not be a great ideal?

http://www.ktncusa.com/750-tvl/700_tvl_box/box-camera

Im planning on getting a EJ230 also. Might do a few builds......

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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by JoeDirt » 28 May 2018, 19:21

AHH the more I read the more im confused :crazy:

Should I be looking into the Foxeer or Runcam brand cameras? Just looking for the best performance with little to no IR illumination.

phoenix
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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by phoenix » 28 May 2018, 20:33

I think you'll find that any lens you fit in front of the camera which is NOT fixed focus will give you major problems with zero shift.
Zoom or varifocal camera lenses do NOT maintain their optical axis as the focal length changes so there will be a shift in zeros as the lens is adjusted.
Even fixed focal length lenses (aka prime lenses) can suffer from the same problem because when the lens rotates as the focus is adjusted, any error in the optical axis of the lens will cause the zero to shift.
If you look at an adjustable objective riflescope and adjust the focus, you'll see that the lens moves backwards and forwards, but it does NOT rotate.

Cheers

Bruce
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JoeDirt
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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by JoeDirt » 29 May 2018, 17:22

Thanks Bruce!

My plan is to use a fixed focal length. I have a few real camera lenses to try out in Nikon F mount. They are internal focusing hopefully they help out with the POA shift. Either way im not too concerned with POA shift, if its an issue i may go with an IR laser sight. They are a controlled in the United States by the Food and Drug Administration but not impossible to get.

Still reading camera threads.... Is your choice camera still the e700?

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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by phoenix » 29 May 2018, 22:15

The KT&C E700 is still the all round best camera to use for an NV build.
Maybe I misunderstood you, how is using an IR laser going to resolve the issue of POA shift caused by misalignment of the optical axis of the lens?

Cheers

Bruce
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JoeDirt
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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by JoeDirt » 29 May 2018, 22:56

I ended up ordering a Foxeer Night Wolf v2, it was easier to just get that. Not too many suppliers that I trust in the states to get the correct e700.

I wont be using the camera for the sight, the IR laser would be mounted to the gun and completely separate from the optics. I will just be using the camera to look at the IR laser beam.


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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by JoeDirt » 30 May 2018, 18:01

I also bought one of these cameras (BSP6300NU) I found it cheap online $80 US. The normal price seemed to be $250.
I might set it up as a spotter, tripod mount it, add lot of light, large viewing screen and set it up over a area for calling in coyotes.....


If it works great, if not I will use it for a security camera.


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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by summer-blue » 30 May 2018, 19:02

This BSP6300NU looks good from the spec. especially there are a lot cheap japan made auto iris fixed focal length c-mount lens. like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-3-Rainb ... SwGz9arX7w

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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by JoeDirt » 04 Jun 2018, 01:04

Found a lens to try out. 50mm F/1.4 Zeiss glass m42 thread for $50


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Re: BSP6300 Build?

Post by summer-blue » 04 Jun 2018, 23:43

The problem with M42 lens is that they are for bigger format sensor (35mm) and they are heavy. You don't really gain much by paring a 1/3" format sensor like KPC.
Also, you'll need female M42 to male C/CS mount adapter like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/C-mount-adapte ... Sw~HBZ-VYh

or you can go less expensive by using this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Macro-Shooting ... Sw5utab-5f

and plus a correct length c-mount extension.

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