Clives digiceptor

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Mini Magnum
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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by Mini Magnum » 29 Sep 2018, 17:41

Clive the Drone Mk2 is a colour image and amazing regardless if the filter is used or not, I leave it off always day and night and the unit is very IR sensitive , just an observation the laser splash as said is very prominent for hundreds of yards..

Do you think the digiceptor in terms of image quality and IR gain/balance control is better than the drone mk2 ?

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by blueroll » 29 Sep 2018, 18:43

Now the moon is on the wane, anybody in the South Devon area with a 10x Dronepro willing to meet up and compare the Digiceptor ?

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by chas » 29 Sep 2018, 20:07

The Hawke calculator will give you some idea, it has WSM listed in presets.

https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/x-act.html


Thanks
But I’m over 50 so can you send me the actual WSM link cause I can’t find i5 !


I'm over 60 :think:
You need the Hawke thing on your computer, I can't send it, might be I just don't know how to.
But.
With a 100yd. zero you will be approx 1" low at 45yards, cock on at 100yds. 0.5 " low at 150 and 2.6 low at 200yds
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With a 150 zero you should be cock on at 80yds, cock on at 150 yds, flying 0.36 high at 110yds and 2 inches low at 200yds.


Download the hawke link I put up, get it on your computer and then look up near top left for presets. select rimfire, then select wsm, it'll put the figures in the chart for you.
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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by jackal1 » 29 Sep 2018, 22:39

cliveward wrote:
29 Sep 2018, 13:22
jackal1 wrote:
28 Sep 2018, 18:13

This tells me that the camera in the digiceptor is not as good as the one in the drone. No matter what laser i use whether the Dragonfly or DFK the drone copes with it instantly, i have never seen whiteout with a drone .
It's actually an extremely high performing camera in the Digiceptor. For best results the IR should be set so that it fills the field of view, if you choke it down to a spot then it will white out even at extremely long range due to the sensitivity. If the IR fills the field of view then it won't, even at 10 yards and the auto exposure will work as it should. 8-)

To give an indication a 38mm Black Sun Ruby T20 will give full illumination (as in the camera isn't doing any processing work to improve the exposure) at 300m, A Black Sunnranger Ruby will do the same at 600m! No frame integration, no grain, no gain ramping, nothing.

The LRF splash visibility, isn't an indicator of performance either. The Digiceptor has a LWIR cut filter so that it ca be used during the day without special lens caps and other faffing. The filter wavelength is beyond IR illuminator wavelengths, but obviously cuts some LRF IR laser radiation which can be into the 1500nm range. ;)


Cheers





Clive


Why does the Drone not white out with a Dragonfly or DFK wound down to a spot or under any other circumstances?

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by blueroll » 30 Sep 2018, 12:07

I think it is more to do with the intensity of the illuminator. When I refer to "white out" I meant the spot is so small/intense that you can`t see anything in it. When I had my DP I had never used a laser IR or Ruby pilled torch.

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by Barmyfarmer » 30 Sep 2018, 12:09

blueroll wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 12:07
I think it is more to do with the intensity of the illuminator. When I refer to "white out" I meant the spot is so small/intense that you can`t see anything in it. When I had my DP I had never used a laser IR or Ruby pilled torch.
Is the unit impressing you yet blueroll?

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by blueroll » 30 Sep 2018, 12:12

Barmyfarmer wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 12:09
blueroll wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 12:07
I think it is more to do with the intensity of the illuminator. When I refer to "white out" I meant the spot is so small/intense that you can`t see anything in it. When I had my DP I had never used a laser IR or Ruby pilled torch.
Is the unit impressing you yet blueroll?
OH YES.
It is a bit of a lump mind, but that may be a benefit as I slipped on a cow pat last night and dropped the rifle, checked on paper this morning and still bang on. Also I have to remove the LRF to get it in the cabinet and that goes back on to same position. Watching a couple of foxes last night, over the boundary, at 220m.

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by smb64 » 30 Sep 2018, 18:19

Thanks all
I’ve downloaded the hornady ballistic app.
Cheers

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by smb64 » 30 Sep 2018, 18:26

chas wrote:
29 Sep 2018, 20:07
The Hawke calculator will give you some idea, it has WSM listed in presets.

https://uk.hawkeoptics.com/x-act.html


Thanks
But I’m over 50 so can you send me the actual WSM link cause I can’t find i5 !


I'm over 60 :think:
You need the Hawke thing on your computer, I can't send it, might be I just don't know how to.
But.
With a 100yd. zero you will be approx 1" low at 45yards, cock on at 100yds. 0.5 " low at 150 and 2.6 low at 200yds
.
With a 150 zero you should be cock on at 80yds, cock on at 150 yds, flying 0.36 high at 110yds and 2 inches low at 200yds.


Download the hawke link I put up, get it on your computer and then look up near top left for presets. select rimfire, then select wsm, it'll put the figures in the chart for you.
Hi chas
What does the Hawke chart show for a 75yard zero
Cheers

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by chas » 30 Sep 2018, 20:38

Hi chas
What does the Hawke chart show for a 75yard zero
Cheers
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Not much different from the 150yd zero really.
Zero at 75yds and 160yds, 0.5 inches high at 120-ish and 1.75 low at 200yds.

Before you ask :wave:
65 and 180 zero. 1 inch high at 130-ish and 1 inch low at 200yds.


If it doesn't work out, blame Hawke, not me. ;)
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