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Marksman56
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NV Novice looking for help

Post by Marksman56 » 15 Oct 2018, 08:51

Complete NV novice but am seriously looking to acquire a modestly priced digital NV sight. X-Sight IIs are coming down in price now the new 4k model is being released just wondering if the extra £400 is justified for the new model. Also the new Photon Yukon RT at about £600...how does that compare with the X-Sights.
Have looked at the add ons Ward 800 gets good reviews but will it compare with the dedicated sights.

Any help or recommendations gratefully received.


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Re: NV Novice looking for help

Post by owl » 15 Oct 2018, 10:02

Before anyone jumps in with a response it might assist if you could let us know the quarry and distances you are looking at, plus the calibre of rifle and what scope (if any) you already have or are budgeted for if an add-on is on the cards.

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Re: NV Novice looking for help

Post by phoenix » 15 Oct 2018, 10:08

You need to look at two different ways of doing this - either a dedicated NV scope or a rear add-on to standard day scope.
If you go the NV scope route, the best budget buy is the Yukon Photon XT 6.5x50 - but the XT does not have on board recording or wifi - you'll need the Photon RT to get those features.
Although you'll find a few people who rate the X Sight II, you won't find much love for it on this forum, the old hands on here (who know their stuff) generally think it's pish
For a rear add-on, go no further than a PARD NV007 - variously known as the addonight, warden adder, blacknight NV007 etc, etc
This is a great piece of kit for not much money (around £350), but to get the best out of it you need the right type of scope.
The scope must have some form of focus adjustment (side focus is easier unless you have gorilla arms) and the focus needs to go down to 15m or less.
Bigger objective lenses are better - 50mm or more.
The low end of the magnification range should be less than 4 and the maximum magnification less than 20 (preferably 15)
6-24 and 8-32 scopes really don't work well
The coatings on the scope lenses make a huge difference to how the add-on performs and it's well known that top scope brands like Swarovski, Zeiss,and Schmidt and Bender don't work well with rear add-ons.
The brands known to work well are Hawke, Sightron, Bushnell, MTC, and Delta Optical

Cheers

Bruce
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Marksman56
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Re: NV Novice looking for help

Post by Marksman56 » 15 Oct 2018, 13:23

owl wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 10:02
Before anyone jumps in with a response it might assist if you could let us know the quarry and distances you are looking at, plus the calibre of rifle and what scope (if any) you already have or are budgeted for if an add-on is on the cards.
Thanks owl, will be used on a variety of rifles for rabbits and occasionally foxes at ranges up to 250 yds
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Re: NV Novice looking for help

Post by Marksman56 » 15 Oct 2018, 13:30

phoenix wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 10:08
You need to look at two different ways of doing this - either a dedicated NV scope or a rear add-on to standard day scope.
If you go the NV scope route, the best budget buy is the Yukon Photon XT 6.5x50 - but the XT does not have on board recording or wifi - you'll need the Photon RT to get those features.
Although you'll find a few people who rate the X Sight II, you won't find much love for it on this forum, the old hands on here (who know their stuff) generally think it's pish
For a rear add-on, go no further than a PARD NV007 - variously known as the addonight, warden adder, blacknight NV007 etc, etc
This is a great piece of kit for not much money (around £350), but to get the best out of it you need the right type of scope.
The scope must have some form of focus adjustment (side focus is easier unless you have gorilla arms) and the focus needs to go down to 15m or less.
Bigger objective lenses are better - 50mm or more.
The low end of the magnification range should be less than 4 and the maximum magnification less than 20 (preferably 15)
6-24 and 8-32 scopes really don't work well
The coatings on the scope lenses make a huge difference to how the add-on performs and it's well known that top scope brands like Swarovski, Zeiss,and Schmidt and Bender don't work well with rear add-ons.
The brands known to work well are Hawke, Sightron, Bushnell, MTC, and Delta Optical

Cheers

Bruce
Thanks Bruce, I actually have most of those scopes. S&B and Nightforce on .17 and .223 with Bushnell and Hawke on .22 and FAC air rifle.
I did read about the Addonite but dismissed it as it seemed too cheap!!!!!!! A lot of X-Sights for sale on the bay so wondered if they were very good but do you know if is the new 4k one any better.

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Re: NV Novice looking for help

Post by phoenix » 15 Oct 2018, 14:17

The 4K Pro seems better and when I briefly looked through one at the Shooting Show in February, I was quite impressed.
However, ATN have such a bad reputation for making products that don't come near the performance inferred in their advertising, plus poor back up and service, makes a lot of people who have been around the NV game for a while be very wary of any of their products.
To be fair to ATN, they now have a permanent set up the UK so hopefully their back up and service will improve.

Cheers

Bruce
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Re: NV Novice looking for help

Post by owl » 15 Oct 2018, 15:26

Marksman56 wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 13:30
I did read about the Addonite but dismissed it as it seemed too cheap!!!!!!!
The Warden Adder/Addonight units are a hell of a Big Bang for your bucks and performance wise better than anything that’s been available before in that sector of the market. Given your existing scopes and the versatility it provides I don’t think you’ll go far wrong with one.

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