Clives digiceptor

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jackal1
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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by jackal1 » 15 Oct 2018, 15:10

What rifle calibres are you chaps using?
and what is the poi at 50, 100, 150, 200, 250 and 300yds using the digicepter scope?

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by blueroll » 15 Oct 2018, 16:29

Barmyfarmer wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 12:29
blueroll wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 09:53
I have found the battery (2xCR123) life is much better that the DP as well.
Good point!

You agree with my findings blueroll?
Broadly yes but still hoping for a volunteer in South Devon to compare against a DP, although don`t get me wrong as the image is good and I would not buy a DP now , not with its history of POI shift and large ret.

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by jackal1 » 17 Oct 2018, 10:38

jackal1 wrote:
15 Oct 2018, 15:10
What rifle calibres are you chaps using?
and what is the poi at 50, 100, 150, 200, 250 and 300yds using the digicepter scope?

So has no one done any detailed zeroing?

Just zero at 100yds and hope for the best at other ranges? :thumbup:

The reason i ask is because the digicepter scope height is so high from the centre of the barrel it would be interesting to see what the poi is at varying ranges. :think:

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by phoenix » 17 Oct 2018, 11:52

Any ballistic calculator will give you the theoretical POIs at different distances for different scope heights.
I use this one http://www.shooterscalculator.com/balli ... -chart.php
For the numbers from an existing user to be valid for your set up, they'd have to be shooting and identical rifle with an identical load.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the scope height will have any significant effect on POI on a fox size target once you get out beyond 100 yards unless you shoot a very slow bullet

Cheers

Bruce
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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by jackal1 » 17 Oct 2018, 12:42

phoenix wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 11:52
Any ballistic calculator will give you the theoretical POIs at different distances for different scope heights.
I use this one http://www.shooterscalculator.com/balli ... -chart.php
For the numbers from an existing user to be valid for your set up, they'd have to be shooting and identical rifle with an identical load.
I might be wrong, but I don't think the scope height will have any significant effect on POI on a fox size target once you get out beyond 100 yards unless you shoot a very slow bullet

Cheers

Bruce

I am quite certain it does make a difference, hence why some people had trouble with the Drone x15. In fact on one particular episode of fieldsports Britain Roy Lupton missed a fox with a Drone x15, he shot over the top of it because he hadn't taken into account the scope height when he zeroed.

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by warbucks » 17 Oct 2018, 13:50

A high scope height give's further range, but at short distance can cause you to shoot low if you dont take this into account.
Think some has said that the Digiceptor is 3 1/4" over the centre of the barrel ?, so if i had one on my 243 using 58g home loaded bullets doing 3,700 fps, and working on a foxes kill zone 10"x4"/ 250mm x 100mm ---zeroed at 3/4" high at 100 yds it would be.
25 yds -1.98"
100 yds +.77"
150 yds +1.66"-------just under the highest point of the trajectory.
300 yds -1.98"

I try to work on being a little under 2" at the highest point of the trajectory.

Ie only the under 25 yd one's that would be a problem, and i suppose we dont get many under 25 yds.

Dave (warbucks)

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by jackal1 » 17 Oct 2018, 14:35

warbucks wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 13:50
A high scope height give's further range, but at short distance can cause you to shoot low if you dont take this into account.
Think some has said that the Digiceptor is 3 1/4" over the centre of the barrel ?, so if i had one on my 243 using 58g home loaded bullets doing 3,700 fps, and working on a foxes kill zone 10"x4"/ 250mm x 100mm ---zeroed at 3/4" high at 100 yds it would be.
25 yds -1.98"
100 yds +.77"
150 yds +1.66"-------just under the highest point of the trajectory.
300 yds -1.98"

I try to work on being a little under 2" at the highest point of the trajectory.

Ie only the under 25 yd one's that would be a problem, and i suppose we dont get many under 25 yds.

Dave (warbucks)


If you are zeroed at 3/4" high at 100 what is your true zero?

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by phoenix » 17 Oct 2018, 15:07

Using Warbucks numbers, the near zero is 70 yards and the far zero is 270 yards
The minimum PBR would be 23 yards and the maximum PBR would be 308 yards

Cheers

Bruce
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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by jackal1 » 17 Oct 2018, 19:16

phoenix wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 15:07
Using Warbucks numbers, the near zero is 70 yards and the far zero is 270 yards
The minimum PBR would be 23 yards and the maximum PBR would be 308 yards

Cheers

Bruce

I have got the gist of Daves post now after rereading it. They are hypothetical figures IF he had a digiceptor scope on.

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Re: Clives digiceptor

Post by warbucks » 17 Oct 2018, 20:24

jackal1 wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 19:16
phoenix wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 15:07
Using Warbucks numbers, the near zero is 70 yards and the far zero is 270 yards
The minimum PBR would be 23 yards and the maximum PBR would be 308 yards

Cheers

Bruce

I have got the gist of Daves post now after rereading it. They are hypothetical figures IF he had a digiceptor scope on.
Yes, ive actually got the Drone Pro which sits 2.6" above the 243's barrel, a lot of centrefire rifles are around their highest point of trajectory around the 150 yd mark, for me a final check at 150 yds so i am not over 2" high, 1 1/2" high is more like it for me seen as most of the foxes shot will be 100-200 yds, it sort of gives you the most point-n-shoot range
Another minor thing with the Drone Pro or Digiceptor is adjustments thats 12mm dp 10mm dc, this will be around 20mm dp, and 15mm dc at 150 yds, ive been a little un lucky with my DP as at 150 yds its a Full 2"/50mm high which is just a little too much, one click lower then makes this 1 1/4"/32mm high where in an ideal world, i was hoping for 1 1/2"/38mm high just got to go with the best compromise.

Dave (warbucks)

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