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Calibre question?

Post by Chrissmith0881 » 04 Oct 2017, 16:13

Hi guy not sure if this has been done before or not but I am thinking of getting a new rifle as a dedicated nv rifle for fox with my drone which is on my 243 at the min and I'm thinking either a 204 or a 22-250? I have a 223 but have never really got on with it so just wondered people's thoughts?

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by phoenix » 04 Oct 2017, 16:39

I'm sure you'll get pros and cons for both, and the bottom line is that they'll both do the job if the bullet goes where you want it to.
I chose 22-250 because, for me, the extra energy means that even a not very good hit usually drops the fox on the spot.
I have a keeper friend who is a far better shot than me and who bought a 204 thinking that it would be a nice light rifle with enough power to deal with foxes, but he sold it after having too many runners.
Another factor for me, being in Scotland, is that if I remove the thermal scope and put on a normal scope I can use it for roe

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by weejohn » 04 Oct 2017, 16:54

To save some money you could always just re-barrel the 223 into 204 or even 20 tactical/20 practical if you reload .

If you want to buy another rifle I think you won't go far wrong with the 22-250.

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by 22-250jock » 04 Oct 2017, 17:44

.22-250

as Bruce pointed out, harder hitting .........and legal for munty and chinese water deer, also roe in scotland,

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by Frogman Ladue » 04 Oct 2017, 20:12

22-250, heavier bullets.
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Re: Calibre question?

Post by les302p » 04 Oct 2017, 20:28

204 all day long. Less recoil, so you see the strike, quieter, and flat to 300. Whats not to like. I use 40 gr bullets out of a ppc and don't get runners. A wiser man than me said 'if you shot a mouse in the tail with a 375 h and h it will run away' so yes you must be able to shoot.

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by Frogman Ladue » 04 Oct 2017, 22:34

It's not on the list, but 25-06 would be my choice.

Over here, .204 is just a heavier alternative to .17 that behaves better in the wind.

.223 is a plinker and an intermediate round. I will work on coyotes. Prairie Dogs are a challenge. There are far better performing rounds available with regards to long range accuracy and wound characteristics.

22-250 does everything the above does, but further, flatter, and bullet options that can get you into bigger game.

25-06 does everything the above does, without shedding kinetic energy. It come in long action on 30-06 parent case. If you're into reloading, you get the gains of cheap, available brass and higher chamber loads. You can cook up some heavy, spicy stuff, or just run factory 75 grain at just under 4000fps.

All 4 (aside from .223) are with in factions of a quid, have low to manageable recoil, shoot flat. .223 is an intermediate cartridge and was designed to exceed performance of the .30 carbine. It was never meant to be a hunting round, and it really doesn't do hunting that well.
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Re: Calibre question?

Post by Kevgun » 05 Oct 2017, 06:48

Chris, .22.250 for me no doubt run the likely calibres through a ballistic app and see for yourself .22.250 shoots flatter than a .204 but not as flat as a .243 with 58gr which is the flattest of the 3. i'm running a 50gr vmax @ 3580 with a 100yd zero and if you set it up on the Drone 10 the top of the post
below the cross hair is 250 yard and the first full cross down is 350 yards haven't missed since i carried out a small mod to my Drone, i haven't lost my zero and my confidence in the Drone is back :thumbup: I have and do use my .243 but i find with .22.250 it has less recoil so you can follow the shot through. and see you have hit, with the .243 sometimes you lose sight of the target after the shot for a moment.

All data from Norma ballistics program https://www.norma.cc/en/Ammunition-Acad ... s-program/

if you go to Hunting cartridge section and pick
40 gr vmax for .204
50gr vmax for .22.250
58gr vmax for .243

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by warbucks » 06 Oct 2017, 12:06

Hi Chris.
What's up with the 243 for foxing ?, reason i ask is since 2014 to date ive shot just over 700 foxes with my 223, i do get runners so i must no be such a good shot :thumbdown: , im thinking about going 243 to reduce the runners to next to nothing.

I have a mate thats got 204, he gets runners, i personally wouldn't go 204 out of your choice, of the two it would have to be 22-250 for me if your not happy with the 243.

In field condition's, at range your not going to get perfect shot placement, extra "clout" of 22-250, or 243 imo is the way to go.

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Re: Calibre question?

Post by Chrissmith0881 » 06 Oct 2017, 14:43

Hi Dave
Sorry i should have said nothing wrong with the 243 at all i love it but i want it back with a normal scope on for shooting deer. I really cant fault the 243 and would recommend it to anyone its the 223 i just dont get on with. Think the way things are looking im leaning towards the 22-250 or even another 243 if they will allow.

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