toxo wrote:some bloke wrote:Have you looked into it? - and are you talking LED or lasertoxo?
I thought I read on here that it didn't matter! Infrared is infrared is it not and although it's more concentrated in a "laser", it's still the same wavelength is it not? If it's the concentration that's causing people to be at risk then they should all be banned because this whole NV thing is about getting it out there far enough to see things at distance.
You THOUGHT you read it did'nt matter? Could you find that bit for me please? Considering you THINK you read things that might be a bit too subtle I'll be blunt - because sometimes being blunt is an act of kindness in a rough glove.
Infra red is indeed infra red regardless of how concentrated it is - that is absolutely correct. Regarding the highly collimated focused concentration: As far as I am aware, IR laser designators and illuminators are supplied with warnings either printed on the actual device - and/or on an enclosed date sheet. Have you read all the posts in this thread or just skipped through them and now want to blame someone else for your lack of awareness now you have found somewhere to pounce? Did you selectively miss-read the title of this thread by some strange chance? As for banning far reaching covert light sources: How would you feel if far reaching rifles and ammunition were banned for the same reasons - they don't come with warnings about dangers of looking down the barrel when you squeeze the trigger eithersome bloke wrote:There's plenty of informed opinions on here and around the tinternet. Being as you have converted one that was obvious when it was on or off you'll have to see if it's on or off with your Nv device.
I, along with a lot of others am still experimenting and my torch isn't rigged up with my rifle/c/corder yet and until I read this thread I had no idea that any of it was dangerous.
I hope that supposedly 'lot of others' swapping visible laser diodes for invisible laser diodes had more sense than you to be fair and yes, blunt is the best way to put it because it might get through the reading material they might be ignoring. I have much sympathy for your potential predicament. Its very unfortunate you didn't search 'tinternet before modifying a visible output one to one that the human eye can not see very easily: With respect, the worldwide web has oodles and oodles of safety warnings about them.
Can I suggest you go for an eye examination?some bloke wrote:That could explain why IR illuminators them have ikkle led's to let the user know when it's on, don't you think?
OK, i'll avoid calling you a smartass (with a smiley of course) but many people won't know this, myself included. There are a lot of people who are messing with this stuff for the first time and have never seen one.
For the record I've just bought one of these also (260916463644) and it certainly doesn't have any on/off indicator.
If you are seriously raising awareness of the dangers involved I would have thought the very very first line of this thread should be and i'm not shouting.
"If you are working with infrared DIY devices MAKE SURE ANY DEVICE YOU END UP WITH HAS AN ON/OFF INDICATOR you know, ONE OF THEM IKKLE LEDs (sorry, couldn't help myself) .
To be fair - I was being mildly condescending that your first post on this forum was complaining to us that you were unaware of the dangers in regard to fiddling about with laser diodes. It is an unavoidable fact that you, being 'tinernet aware and enabled ought to have researched your project. I also, to be frank rather than a smartass, find it quite ridiculous that you could find your way round 'tinternet looking for IR laser diodes - and reading about IR laser illuminators - in order to convert one, without coming across umpteen warnings.
Your suggested thread title... As explained elsewhere, IR Laser devices are supplied with prominent warnings. I doubt you can buy an IR laser diode in this country without the warnings. LASER SAFETY is in my opinion a perfect title for this thread
And you still haven't answered the question of why the prey animals are not running away screaming and clutching their eye sockets where their sight used to be?
I'd hazard a guess that's because they either havent realised their eyes may have been damaged. I say "may" because they are some distance from the light source so it may not be making them scream or rub there eyes. They may be temporarily nite-eye blind and wondering why - but if they are unaware of the shooters presence, rather than a light they may be curious about they'd have no reason to run off. Personally, I have yet to see any rabbit running on it's hind legs.
I don't have a science degree. I'm just a fella who likes things to make sense in a common sense way and there are too many loose ends here.[/color]
I'm not a scientist either, and I don't know any of anyone that qualified driving taxis on overnight shifts. The loose ends are in your mind, warnings about the dangers are there for those who can take in what is written here.
I shall now aplogise for the bluntness of my post - but to be fair the bluntness might be noted a bit more than the posts by better word smiths than me - which somehow seem to have escaped your attention.
The device that you have just bought: (808nm 250mW IR Laser Focusable Dot Module) is not very covert, you should be able to see a slight glow if you point it at a close up light coloured wall in a darkish room. Your torch mod is likely to be an LED rather than a laser