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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Midnight.Sun » 29 Jun 2016, 07:45

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It depends on how you measure it like you said, the British Empire was the greatest of all time by wealth and expanding and much more, it developed and used and benefited from modernity in achieving that greatness, and had the chance to do it in the best time of history.

I happen to like modernity and success, and i keep gratitude for the past participators in history, so the UK always had its big place in my heart along side with Japan and Russia and others, but speaking about all the English things i like, happens else where, with other people from different nationality.

Of course that had nothing to do with me coming here, which was just a coincidence, definitely because of my usual extreme bad luck in life :lol: .
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Midnight.Sun » 29 Jun 2016, 08:40

To Rod

I forgot this:

As for paying welfare for Polish workers families aboard, I didn't know about that, and I don't know what is the cause for such special treatment, I initially don't approve on it, no I don't, I prefer that every worker should get paid fairly just for his/her work, and benefit from their social rights and pay for their dues, and by that they should provide a decent living for their families.

But, by the time it takes to complete the separation form the EU, this law, and all the other similar ones, will come to end, I would like to see how much that is going to effect your financial problems, as your bigger ones will all remain the same, and probably will get worse, because the richest are going to get richer and will stick their hands deeper in your wallet.

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To the EU .. :lol:

Continue forward with your left wing socialist communist dream :D , you will reach the top and dethrone the US, it will be you in the west, and Russia in the east, and China just in the middle economically. :thumbup:

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Midnight.Sun » 29 Jun 2016, 18:52

Radagast wrote:Midnight.Sun:
Keep in mind the fact that the media that pushes the idea that Brexit is bad are the same ones that cover up the US & Saudi involvement in the destruction of your country. Mass media is a tool for psychological warfare. Look at who gets invited to summits, or have their families marry into the white house staff. CNN, NBC, ABC, BBC, Google, Facebook. They are insiders, not observers and reporters.
The BBC housed and protected a pedophile ring for over half a century. They hired people who thought like them, went to the same schools and joined the same clubs. With that in mind, will you trust them to be honest and forthright on any matter requiring integrity and belief in their society?

The destruction of Britain is more covert and long term than the destruction of Syria, but the effect is the same - loss of freedom for the inhabitants, imposition of an enemy religion on the population.

I'm not belittling the utter destruction visited upon your nation. The Obama & Bush administrations are war criminals for what they have done in the middle east.
I don't trust anybody, but I listen to every information available to me, I don't have the American news networks you mentioned, I have only the official ones from the west, but I tell you something from my experience of following the Syrian events: If you want to know about a particular event, the first source to read and hear should be the official spokes source of the concerned party, then his enemies, allies, opposition, .... etc etc, to the lowest source out there, all is useful.

As much low you think of BBC, it remains a lot better than many other official stations, the same can be said about France, CNN, German TV, ..etc of western media, i'm not saying I take what they say, but they are beneficial to have a look at, you can tell so much from the eyes movement and facial expressions and voices tones of people, reporters, politicians .., etc, no matter how hard they try to bluff or are trained to, they are humans and they will make many mistakes, especially under big events pressure. Take it from someone who has been at least for the past five years following the Syrian crisis which is a maze of dark forest for most of the concerned people.

Actually your words up there about Syria made me write an entire section or a big article, when finished it I decided its better to be thrown away in a heart beat this time, and went to my late lunch, because words can be more harmful than .......? Multiple directions Bullets.

But I wouldn't call Obama a war criminal, and he might be the best American President yet, I like him for many reasons, especially that he slowed the pace in Syria as much as a man and his administration can, he has changed many of his highest ranks for that order. Many of the people who are anxious to destroy Syria and occupy it, hate him so much. He proved that he is a great president on so many issues, and he did the best he could do on all of them.

As for Britain destruction, you are right, the som amount of loss over the past century is huge.
I have sensed a lot of passion in the voices of many regular Brits over a week of coverage, who most of them on TV were answering the reporters by "Leave", now that their wish came true, i wish them the best, to win back their glory, and build up a further fair place for them all.

I believe you are a librarian? If so, then you have access to real books, good books, and real sources for knowledge and science. Is Wikipedia trustworthy like Encyclopaedia, Britannica, ..etc. Rather, are all those trustworthy?

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by sunndog » 29 Jun 2016, 19:33

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Frogman Ladue » 30 Jun 2016, 02:22

Midnight.Sun wrote: I don't trust anybody, but I listen to every information available to me, I don't have the American news networks you mentioned, I have only the official ones from the west, but I tell you something from my experience of following the Syrian events: If you want to know about a particular event, the first source to read and hear should be the official spokes source of the concerned party, then his enemies, allies, opposition, .... etc etc, to the lowest source out there, all is useful.

As much low you think of BBC, it remains a lot better than many other official stations, the same can be said about France, CNN, German TV, ..etc of western media, i'm not saying I take what they say, but they are beneficial to have a look at, you can tell so much from the eyes movement and facial expressions and voices tones of people, reporters, politicians .., etc, no matter how hard they try to bluff or are trained to, they are humans and they will make many mistakes, especially under big events pressure. Take it from someone who has been at least for the past five years following the Syrian crisis which is a maze of dark forest for most of the concerned people.

Actually your words up there about Syria made me write an entire section or a big article, when finished it I decided its better to be thrown away in a heart beat this time, and went to my late lunch, because words can be more harmful than .......? Multiple directions Bullets.

But I wouldn't call Obama a war criminal, and he might be the best American President yet, I like him for many reasons, especially that he slowed the pace in Syria as much as a man and his administration can, he has changed many of his highest ranks for that order. Many of the people who are anxious to destroy Syria and occupy it, hate him so much. He proved that he is a great president on so many issues, and he did the best he could do on all of them.

As for Britain destruction, you are right, the som amount of loss over the past century is huge.
I have sensed a lot of passion in the voices of many regular Brits over a week of coverage, who most of them on TV were answering the reporters by "Leave", now that their wish came true, i wish them the best, to win back their glory, and build up a further fair place for them all.

I believe you are a librarian? If so, then you have access to real books, good books, and real sources for knowledge and science. Is Wikipedia trustworthy like Encyclopaedia, Britannica, ..etc. Rather, are all those trustworthy?

Trust me, you aren't missing anything but bull **** and lies.

I won't call him the best president at all. Obama and Co. hate Assad. Regan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Obama have funded and sent guns to the (terrorist) groups that wish to overthrow Assad, and the Syrian people via radicalist means. "Murica knows that the Syrian people (not sympathetic to Assad or Radicals) are screwed. Obama knows, "Murica cannot afford another land war. Obama knows, he can't send guns to Syria. There's no easy way for "Murica to get involved in Syria and achieve a positive outcome. In the end, there is just going to be another power vacuum like there was in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. The only way 'Murica can win in the situation is "not play the game". Obama knows this. If Hillary gets elected, the radicals get more money, and get more incentives to relocate to "Murica and Europe. If Trump gets elected, the only thing you'll hear from the White House is the beep to leave a message on the voice mail box.


Another new Brexit joke over here...

An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman walk into a pub...

The Englishman wanted to go so they all had to leave.
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by hairyyoda » 30 Jun 2016, 17:21

:wave: Frogman why have you left the Welshman/person out ??? very unfair and not "cricket" of you :shock:

Your quote.

Another new Brexit joke over here...
An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman walk into a pub... ??????

Only joking :lolno: Phil
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Midnight.Sun » 01 Jul 2016, 00:33

Frogman Ladue wrote: Trust me, you aren't missing anything but bull **** and lies.

I won't call him the best president at all. Obama and Co. hate Assad. Regan, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., and Obama, have funded and sent guns to the (terrorist) groups that wish to overthrow Assad, and the Syrian people via radicalist means. "Murica knows that the Syrian people (not sympathetic to Assad or Radicals) are screwed. Obama knows, "Murica cannot afford another land war. Obama knows, he can't send guns to Syria. There's no easy way for "Murica to get involved in Syria and achieve a positive outcome. In the end, there is just going to be another power vacuum like there was in Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. The only way 'Murica can win in the situation is "not play the game", Obama knows this. If Hillary gets elected, the radicals get more money, and get more incentives to relocate to "Murica and Europe. If Trump gets elected, the only thing you'll hear from the White House is the beep to leave a message on the voice mail box.
BBC is a world of documenting and following news, recently CNN and other Euro channels followed, BBC Arabic radio is legendary around here, my parents and grandparents used to listen to it, I did too, now its signal is significantly weaker (I suspect local interruption), same story with Monte Carlo (French radio station in Arabic) also hard to get now, both of them were in the past the only source for listening to news other than the Arabic bullshit propaganda. Now the Arabic world follow the news on satellite channels, and the ones dominating the scene are the Gulf channels like the shitty Al-Jazeera (the original Atabic version, other than the International version that tries to look legit) and it's alike of Gulf channels like: Al-Arabia, SkyNewsArabia, Al-Arabi TV, and tens others, the sum of lying and swaying the truth in favour of Sunni Islam on every subject -even cooking- is ridiculous, if the Islamic groups wins a battle they show off like hell, and when they loses a battle the weeping and human rights starts and showing pictures of hungry children and women, .... etc. Also does -but a lot less degree- our Syrian official and private media, and a lot lot less is the Lebanese media.
Lying is the language of the Muslim Arab world.
Every media is related to some party and that's why the official (government) news is always a good start, especially a legendary old school like BBC.

The ex American presidents you named hated both Assads for valid reasons, i'm not a fan myself. Assad is not any great, he only gained some legitimacy and respect after this war, as he did his job and stood up and faced the so called "Arab Spring" that turned out to be a Sunni Islamic Spring, and all its regional interventions from the Gulf states and Turkey, and -to this day- he managed to save Syria from that fatal fait, although part of it was protecting his position and his family's and regime's dominance over the country. Other than that he never done anything special to the country and the people, and will never do.
For me, as a Christian Orthodox all I care about -like the vast majority of rational Syrians- is a stable government that can provide safety and order, we are not interested in democracy in Syria because it will bring a Sunni Islamic leadership to power, because the Sunni alone are the majority in Syria by approximately 60% of the population (at least before the war), and thats among almost 27 other religious and ethnic Syrian minorities, including what is estimated by approximately 25% Christians (also before the war) most of them are the Roman Orthodox (and also Arminian, Assyrian, Ashourian, kaldian ..etc, all Orthodox) and the rest of all Churches (Catholic, Protestants, Biblic .. etc). So democracy will finish what is left of the Christians in Syria whom are the original inhabitants of the middle east "the original population", we also don't want any power vacuum to occur because that is the open gate for ethnic cleansing and massacers, like what happened to Eizidies in Iraq in 2014.
All Christians in the Middle East now are preferring a stable unjust regime like Assad's over any form of instability that can lead to total chaos.
Of course a modern, equal to everyone, respects all freedoms, all religions, state of law, is what all Christians in the Middle East dream of, but they know in reality that it is a luxury dream, because the dominate Islam religion -in all its main three branches- is the opposite of all that.

A brief look at the three branches main problematic issues:

1. The Sunni Islam, they have the most radical and dangerous explication of Islam, like in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kwait, and other Gulf states, and most of the Islamic world that is under their oil money influence. Those viciously practices every bit of hard Sharia Laws in their religious states (i.e. Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Qatar, Kwait). Their religious militants groups practiced killing and driving out the peaceful unarmed Christians and Jews and other minorities that live among them, by terrorist acts. They based on religious reasons want to control the world and turn it to Islam.

2. The Shiaa Islam, fairly moderate, and a lot more rational than the Sunni, they live in Iraq, Iran, northwest Afganistan, Bahrain, Southern Lebanon, all together are a minority compared to the Sunni. Those practices a less uptight -but still firm- Shariaa Laws in their only one religious state "Iran". Their religious militants groups wouldn't kill or drive out the peaceful unarmed Christians and Jews and other minorities living among them, but keep them under dominate pressure and control. They for religious reasons speak loudly that they want to take down Isreal and liberate al Aqssa Mosque.

3. The Alawi Islam (like Assad), religiously considered a branch of Shiaa Islam, lives in the west of Syria and southwest of Turkey, those are the most moderate of the three. Those only rule in one country "Syria" and over the will of a big Sunni majority that has many uneducated and very religiously tight communities that can turn very easily to Sunni extremists. The Alawis don't practice any hardcore Shariaa Laws in Syria, they practice conventional Law that is lightly mixed with Islamic social non violent Sariaa. They would't kill or drive out the peaceful unarmed Christians and Jews and other minorities living along with them, but they keep them under dominant pressure and control, and use them as a mail box with the Christian World to show themselves as "the minorities protecters", also they continuously make sure to over power those minorities economically to become better than them in modernity, and take their places, and take them out of the game. Other negatives are being a big time liars and trouble makers, famous of being thefts, and have drug and arms dealing and many other criminal activities. They NEVER use their extensive authorities to make any SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS in the country (heh, why would they?) on any level but corruption of course. They hardly have any religious obligations, but they go a long with the Shiaa Muslims with their anti Esrael policies, and they do that also based on Arabic Nationalism prospective.

P.S. There's hardly any Jewish citizens left in the "Arabic" countries in the Asian part, only very few of sub Jewish living covertly under other close ties religion/religions.
While in the North African Arab countries closer to Europe, there's still some small Jewish minorities living in relative peace.



Now, i know Obama has sent and is sending weapons to Sunni Islamic Syrian groups and train them, so does the British government through Jordan for example, but not as much as before, the Americans training program has strict anti terrorist conditions and insists on fighting IS only and not the Syrian Army, that's why it's attracting so few miltants, and that's an Obama administration effect. Now he is backing the PYD (YPG - YPJ) whom are the Syrian Kurd branch of the PKK (Kurdestani Labour Party), to benefit from their long military struggle for freedom experience to finish IS and bring it to end, which is a positive move I personally expected to see from him.
The IS scenario is architected by the Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Turkish intelligence, an old structure of al Qaeda in Iraq, ex Saddam Hussain's intelligence and army officers, and new Iraqi and foreign Islamic extremists where recruited. The three countries started that IS plan to face -and cut in the middle- the powerful Syrian Iraqian Iranian axis back in 2013, and secret goal was to strengthen the extreme Wahhabi Salafi practices among the children of the Syrian Sunni Muslims majority. Don't know if Obama was informed, they probably wouldn't want to inform anyone about their connections with global terrorism, but the American knew and let it be, only to weaken that axis (chess game), but Obama probably told his generals : "We'll be controlling the maps fronts and borders from the sky" and he announced a timeline of three years (the date he's leaving office) needed to finish the terrorist organisation of IS , thats why you are seeing the fast ending of IS now, and not so much in the past two years.

Hillary is not very sharp IMO, I don't like to see her the next US president, though I think she does have the better odds. Her view for Syria, as i remember, wasn't good. She held relations with the Arab Islamists politicians and activists, and believed of their right to get to power, i.e. Lybia, Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, and Syria. And she used to hang out in the Gulf countries more than needed, and went along with the Gulf rulers wishes. Some opinions say she would be only a continuation to the Obama administration, and would not repeat the mistakes she did before. But IDK? She seems stubborn and from the kind of persons that would hold revenge, she might insist on her former policies and would want to prove to everyone that she was right, and avenge her former lost battles. IMO regarding the Syrian crisis, she can't be trusted. I could be wrong though, IDK.

Trump, is a good fella, i remember he arranged the MMA tournaments "Affliction", it was a very good one, didn't last long unfortunately.
In the elections coverage, i heard a couple of his later speeches, he is speaking the truth (or what the general public wants te hear). The good thing is he has limited friendships and support from the republican leaders, that's good sign for keeping his opinion about the importance of stability in countries like Syria, Iraq, and Lybia, he blamed the current and the former US governments for messing up the stability there, and that they were responsible for the expansion of Islamic Terrorism in the region, he repeated that on many occasions. But he is a right wing side, so.. Will he keep that view? Won't he fall under the influence of the republicans whom are friends with Saudi Arabia the biggest driving force behind the war on Syria? Because if he will submit to the Saudi demands, that means the American Air Forces will start bombing the Syrian Army and its sub forces instead of bombing the terrorists like Obama is doing now, and that would be catastrophically the most stupid decision a US president can ever make. So I hope that never happens and Trump keeps his promises and stay loyal to his elections views.

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by sunndog » 08 Jul 2016, 06:34

heres a question, whats the deal with those long handled shovels and spades?

You see em in films all the time. round straight handle sometimes about 4 foot long....they look terrible to use
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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by Radagast » 08 Jul 2016, 08:19

Wut?

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Re: Hey foreign guys...Yankee question

Post by CustomRifleScopesUK » 08 Jul 2016, 09:15

sunndog wrote:heres a question, whats the deal with those long handled shovels and spades?

You see em in films all the time. round straight handle sometimes about 4 foot long....they look terrible to use
Yes I've seen them on a few American horror movies ....way too unwealding !

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