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[sunndog]

the standard UF-T20 probably loses 50yrds to a nightmaster and does all you list apart from the pressure swich, you could always solder one in

the pills take less than a minute to change. but at 15 quid a torch why bother?


the one in my pic above uses a 78mm aspheric. xsearcher uses a 66mm.....the bigger the better with aspherics generally...but that one is more than you need

[Elliott]

the standard UF-T20 probably loses 50yrds to a nightmaster and does all you list apart from the pressure swich, you could always solder one in

the pills take less than a minute to change. but at 15 quid a torch why bother?


the one in my pic above uses a 78mm aspheric. xsearcher uses a 66mm.....the bigger the better with aspherics generally...but that one is more than you need

Ok so assuming I went for the T20 I'd expect to get out to 250yds of useable light without spill? Where would I order the 78mm aspheric lens from along with the pill if I wanted a second? Shame I don't have a soldering iron or the skills to attach a pressure pad. I could be tempted by that, it certainly does seem cheap.

[sunndog]

i honestly don't think you need that 78mm job mate, it is a dirty great bruiser of a thing....all my conversions are infra red and i use a smaller lens for 300yrd fox's

heres the t20

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.ph ... 50-p-10770

if you wanted a second pill i'm sure ian (Sika stag) on here will do you one. but he charges about 25 quid for just a pill so if it were me i'd buy two torch's and just convert one to red.....but if your against the d.i.y option i imagine ian, mark or dave (somebloke) will sell you sommat

[Elliott]

i honestly don't think you need that 78mm job mate, it is a dirty great bruiser of a thing....all my conversions are infra red and i use a smaller lens for 300yrd fox's

heres the t20

http://www.manafont.com/product_info.ph ... 50-p-10770

if you wanted a second pill i'm sure ian (Sika stag) on here will do you one. but he charges about 25 quid for just a pill so if it were me i'd buy two torch's and just convert one to red.....but if your against the d.i.y option i imagine ian, mark or dave (somebloke) will sell you sommat

Are the batteries rechargeable and do they come with a charger? Have you got an uprated lens or do you use the standard one out to 300 yards? Is it a nice clean picture at the range too? Marky has offered to supply a red pill one for £60 inc. Pressure pad and mount

[some bloke]

night master? pffftt!

HA ha, LMAO.

[Elliott]

night master? pffftt!

HA ha, LMAO.

To be fair I haven't seen anything on here that can beat it and is available to buy now with all the bits.. If there is could you point me in the direction so I can have a look. I'm edging toward the T20 but concious that I haven't really seen much else

[some bloke]

Either of what has been suggested will serve you well.

I use what I sell for exactly the same purposes and with the same gear as you and genuinely don't think you need anywhere near the spec you think you want but that will sound like I'm being off-hand. I can supply you with what red torch you need, rather than what you seem convinced that you need by next day RMSD.

Remote pressure switches are readily available for it - as are scope mounts, rechargeable batteries and chargers.

However I get the feeling you might be one of the people who will buy more than you need just because you can. Nothing wrong with that - some people buy big cars just because they can too, and NM800 sounds impressive right?

Have you taken into account that more light than you need to use is likely to cost you runners? A little less light could mean a few more bunnies in the bag.

[sunndog]

night master? pffftt!

HA ha, LMAO.

have you seen that cheap night master thread i nicked of the bbs?....nm800 i think they were 61 quid delivered from the u.s. and taclite have got the sole distribution rights for the uk

absolute rip off....and people may wonder why mark and i are always taking the piss out of them

elliot, my use is as an infra red illuminator and not directly comarable with visible light

distance with the red one would depend on what led mark puts in...i imagine it will be an oslon emmiter
i'v never tried a red oslon in a t20 meself but it will deffo do you for a rifle mounted lamp on a hmr

batteries will have to be bought seperatly, you will need rechargeable 18650's......most of our kind of torch's run on these and they arent expensive


just one more note on my piss taking of nm800's

i am a tight wad that enjoys tinkering. and these torch's are piss easy to build
so for me i'd rather wait a couple of weeks for bits and make somthing thats better and a tenth of the price of shop bought
and thats why i always reccomend people a t20 over one of your 501b's dave....i mean no offence but i can build an oslon powered t20 for less than half the cost of your top bannana 501
but like i say, i'm a tight arsed tinkerer

[Elliott]

Either of what has been suggested will serve you well.

I use what I sell for exactly the same purposes and with the same gear as you and genuinely don't think you need anywhere near the spec you think you want but that will sound like I'm being off-hand. I can supply you with what red torch you need, rather than what you seem convinced that you need by next day RMSD.

Remote pressure switches are readily available for it - as are scope mounts, rechargeable batteries and chargers.

However I get the feeling you might be one of the people who will buy more than you need just because you can. Nothing wrong with that - some people buy big cars just because they can too, and NM800 sounds impressive right?

Have you taken into account that more light than you need to use is likely to cost you runners? A little less light could mean a few more bunnies in the bag.

Thanks for the honest reply Dave

I wish I was one of those types of people, but with only £80 spare at the end of each month I like to spend it wisely, hence why I'm asking the questions on here Rather than buying cheap, buying twice (which I've done many times) I prefer to save and invest in something that is going to last - not that I'm saying for a minute anything from you wouldn't. I just like to take my time and see what's available and for what price, then make an informed choice

The NM800 I refer to is just something that appeals if I also intend to move on to centrefire rifles. I'd prefer to invest in one that can cover all the bases. Besides brighter lamps can be dimmed can't they - not sure it works the other way around?

ATB, Elliott

[Elliott]

night master? pffftt!

HA ha, LMAO.

have you seen that cheap night master thread i nicked of the bbs?....nm800 i think they were 61 quid delivered from the u.s. and taclite have got the sole distribution rights for the uk

absolute rip off....and people may wonder why mark and i are always taking the piss out of them

elliot, my use is as an infra red illuminator and not directly comarable with visible light

distance with the red one would depend on what led mark puts in...i imagine it will be an oslon emmiter
i'v never tried a red oslon in a t20 myself but it will deffo do you for a rifle mounted lamp on a hmr

Yes I did, I replied to your post - unbelievable The dealer in the UK must be making a mint! Did you mention you were going to buy one from the US site and ask your mate who lives over there to ship it over? Be interesting to hear what the import tax turns out to be. If it's still a bargain your pal could offer his services for a few quid and be onto a winner